Updated, July 2000
- What are Miyadiscs?
- Will they work in my machine?
- You mention ``unusual mechanical noises'' in your letter to the beta testers. Will these discs damage my machine?
- Will these discs void my machine's warranty?
- What will the discs cost?
- You mean I can clone them?
- Which brand 80 minute blanks do you start with?
- How do you make the discs?
- How did you figure out the UTOC format?
- How can I order them?
- I notice the URL for Miyadisc is under the MiniDisc.org page, what's the relationship?
- Who's Miya?
They are normal 80m59s MiniDiscs with a special User Table of Contents ("UTOC") that places every last block of contiguous recordable area on the disc into the free list. Total capacity is 86m28s.
They have limited compatibility. We are using the beta test period to determine how well they work in various machines (watch this page). Generally they do not work past 82 minutes in Sony portables prior to the MZ-R900 series. Wolfgang Buresch, who pioneered this technique, has compiled a [slightly dated] compatibility list.
| Machine | Play okay? | Overwrite Record okay? | Erase + Record okay? | Comments |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sharp MD-MS702 | Yes | Some strange noises at very end | ||
| Sony MZ-R900 | Yes | Recording proceeds normally, however the effective recording capacity is not 345 minutes in LP4 but rather closer to 326 minutes | No, free space returns to 80:59 after track delete | |
| Sony Portables prior to MZ-R900 series | No | |||
| Aiwa AM-F70
Aiwa AM-F3 |
Yes | No, unit lacks overwrite-record function | No, free space returns to 80:59 after track delete | |
| Sony MDX-C7900 | Yes | N/A | Has some trouble past leadout with fast search forward and reverse | |
| Aiwa XR-MD100 | Partial | ? | Played to within 1m40s of very end, then stopped | |
| Sony MDS-JE320
Sony MDS-JE500 Sony MDS-JE510 (N. American model) |
No | ? | Won't play track #3 of beta disc | |
| Sony MDS-JE520 | Partial | ? | Played track #3 part way through, then stopped | |
| Sony MDS-JE330
Sony MDS-JE530 |
Yes | ? | ? | |
| Sony MDS-W1
Sony MDS-JB930 |
Yes | Yes | No, free space returns to 80:59 after track delete | MDS-JB930 will not time-stamp the Miyadisc |
| Kenwood DM-5090 | Partial | No, unit lacks overwrite-record function | No, free space returns to 80:59 after track delete | Unit hiccupped once during playback of track #3, but completed playing it |
Recording into the area beyond leadout can cause some optical assemblies to be run up against internal stops, or the machine housing. We don't know if this is harmful. Hopefully the beta test period will help us understand this.
Unknown at this time. We hope to hear from manufacturers about their policy on these discs.
We anticipate the price will be $10 each (including shipping), though somewhat lower if you cannot clone them and need them in quantity.
Yes, if you have a machine capable of TOC cloning. We have no quibble with this, or with giving clones to your friends. Please don't set up a business selling your clones though, we went through considerable effort to make these discs.
Various brands. Currently Hi-Space and Sony.
With a normal Sony MDH-10 MD Data drive and a special program.
By experimentation, and frequent glances at Wolfgang Buresch's MiniDisc Secrets and MiniDisc Analyzer pages. We eventually made a page describing the UTOC data structures we found
After the beta test completes, an order form will appear on the Miyadisc Page.
Miyadisc is an experimental business run by Toshi, the MDCP editor's son (albeit with considerable help from his dad).
The family cat.
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